The .458 Lott is a .458 caliber rifle cartridge designed for the purpose of hunting large, thick-skinned dangerous game animals in Africa. However, I stand by my .375 H&H as it has stood by me all these years. McCaa on Why Dangerous Game Guns are So Cool. In addition, a fledgling business of outfitting and guiding foreign hunters in pursuit of these animals was developing, primarily in Kenya, but spreading throughout the continent. The 458 SOCOM cartridge fires a 0.458" bullet diameter which is more common than you might think as it is used by rounds such as the .45-70 Government, 458 Winchester Magnum, 450 Marlin, 460 Weatherby, and 458 Lott. The Lott is about optimum for a 500 grain 45 caliber elephant round. The "Three-Seven-Five" is one of the world's great cartridges. Ive lumped these together because their ballistics are identical, although the cartridges themselves differ considerably. Mine looks like 4.4 on my non digital calipers. What Lott was looking for was a. had failed to stop. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. The .505 Gibbs has few peers for power. Most ammunition manufacturers load factory ammo for it, and most rifle manufacturers make rifles chambered for the round. These three are also great choices for the big bears. 2. Factory ammo is now available for the Lott, and brass is cheaper than for the .460. It was designed for use with Cordite, which was one of the first successful smokeless propellants. Where the Winchester cartridge uses a 2.500" case, Lott used the .375 H&H-length 2.850-inch case for additional powder capacity, and it obtains a muzzle velocity of 2,300 fps with the 500-grain bullets. The ability to reload to a lower velocity provides shooters with ammunition that has less recoil. It has become popular with professional hunters as a stopping rifle for buffalo and elephant. 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I'm a bit late this week because of involvement in a deer hunt; so let's get to it! 460 Weatherby Magnum 470 Caliber: 470 Nitro Express 475 Caliber: 475/416 Rigby Improved 500 Caliber: 500 Jeffery 505 Gibbs 500 A-Square 585 Caliber: 577 Nitro Express 3 Inch 577 Tyrannosaur 585 Nyati 600 Caliber: 600 Nitro Express . The .416 Rigby is almost exclusively loaded with 400-grain bullets. do you find a cartridge with as much devastating power as the .505 Gibbs. Ive killed a number of Cape buffalo with it, and have taken follow-up shots only as a matter of courtesy; the first slug invariably did the trick. A-Frame (.285 BC/.305 SD) at 2360 fps. Mag. It was, and is, a very effective cartridgesome say better than the .470 NEand it is considerably cheaper. Controlled expansion bullets, like this 300 grain .375 H&H Nosler Partition recovered from test media, are best for most dangerous game, except elephant. In some cases, a particular cartridge is included just because the author thinks its interesting. . levels. MAGAZINES. With the A-Frame, all these rounds have an MPBR between 200 and 240 yards, which places them in the same trajectory envelop as the .30-30, .308, and .30-06. If you can have only one hunting rifle, the .375 H&H is the one. I am glad somebody considers me a young pup! Loaded with more aerodynamic bullets, the 9.3x62 will do anything a .30-06 can, and with more thump on the business end. .458 Lott Jack Lott designed the 458 Lott Ammo. 1 in 458 lott at 9.25 lbs. of energy. Midway USA. It is also referred to as the .458 3-inch. Introduced in 1970, the .458 Lott propelled 500-grain bullets at an honest 2,300 fps. It does this at a pressure level that is less than the other dangerous game cartridges listed and many others. The.460 Weatherby Magnum is intended to have headspace on its belt. .458 Lott. Includes 1" (25mm) Opti lock bases and rings, front is offset backwards which means most 1" scopes will fit on . The less recoil, the more accurate the shooter, and hence, the more effective the cartridge. As for those who say it is the man behind the rifle that matters- well such people should be ritually flogged. Learn more . The .470 NE, while no better or worse than the .450 NE (it offers a bigger frontal diameter, yet less Sectional Density), was put into production again in the late 1980s by Federal Premium, cementing its place as the most popular of the double rifle cartridges. He didn't do Winchester any favors writing about his experience in the outdoor press. The .375 Holland & Holland Belted Magnum was released in 1912, and though it wasn't the first .375 to hit the market, it did set the bar for the caliber. The recoil is a factor of training more than anything I think. All calculations were based on the Swift A-Frame bullet. Lott brooded on this for some time, and then began looking for a cartridge that would keep him out of the hospital. 458 ULTRA CAT. Massaro with a Mozambican Cape buffalo, cleanly taken with a Heym 89B in .450/400 3" Nitro Express. Finally, Rigby got the ammo firm of Kynoch to make good bullets for it. 400 gr. Jack Lott designed the 458 Lott Ammo. To celebrate the launch of our brand-newDanger Issue, all week long well be publishing close calls and cautionary tales of the most dangerous game and the big guns you need to stop them. Youll know that you have fired a gun, but the experience will not leave you walking in circles. is a favorite among African PHs and Alaskan bear guides. Loaded to lower pressures with a 400 grain bullet, it becomes an instant .45-70 clone. Nosler Ammunition, This ancient round was originally designed for black powder, and in that form, it goes back to the 1860s. SAKO Safari A IV .338 Win Mag. [18] 416 Rigby or 458 win mag if I I had to chose one. and have shot friends 416 Rigby,458 WM,458 Lott,45-70,45-110. The .458 Lott exists because one man, John Lott, almost met his death in the late 1950s on a wounded Cape buffalos horns. It was at the top of the heap, until insurrections in both India and Sudan resulted in the English ban of all .45 caliber ammunition, resulting in the development of many replacement cartridges, but more about that in a minute. It was designed to duplicate the ballistics of the .450 NE, .470 NE and other similar cartridges. Using a rimmed, 3 -inch straight-wall case, the .450 Nitro Express sent a 480-grain .458-inch diameter bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2,150 fps. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. I have never regretted the decision. at the muzzle and the .460 Wby. In the days when the sun never set on the British Empire, the colonization of vast areas on the African continent and most all of India resulted in a requirement for heavy caliber, powerful rifles and ammunition to protect the homesteads from large and often dangerous animals. Things have been ironed out, and the modern loads for the .458 Winchester Magnum operate as they were designed to. This one is a particular favorite of mine, as it blends classic Africana with a slick-feeding, hard hitting cartridge. Subscriber Services. of the Lott. While exquisite double rifles have been seen as the ultimate solution to this problem, most people, even those who can afford a two week hunt in Africa, most often choose a bolt-action, magazine fed rifle. 470 EMPIRE. W.D.M. Parent case: .378 Weatherby Magnum Case type: Belted, bottleneck. The price of Weatherby ammo is even higher than for the Lott. 460 ALLIANCE. The .475 NE. The designs of the 458 Lott Ammo were on a paper diner napkin. While the "standard" calibers especially with modern bullets can handle 90 percent or more of the world's game, these cartridges are usually reserved for the big beasts. It is a straight-walled cartridge with minimal taper and headspaces of the belt. 1 has been offered in .405 as well. I have not yet released the 458 Lott because ammunition is very expensive. 256 Win Mag; 257 Roberts; 257 Weatherby Magnum; 26 Nosler; 260 Remington; 264 Win Mag; 270 Wby Mag; 270 Win; 270 WSM; 28 Nosler; 280 Rem Ackley Imp. The guy who bought it was just as impressed with the Lott as I was. 505 Gibbs Load Data 18" Barrel. Once almost obsolete, this wonderful old cartridge has made a big comeback in recent years. The .416 Remington debuted in 1989, and is based on the 8mm Remington magnum cartridge. The good thing is that with the developments in modern bullets, many of the cartridges will perform much better than when they were first released. SKU : APAR308554M27 The .500 Jeffery drives that 570-grain bullet to 2,300 fps, and it was until the advent of the .460 Weatherby the most powerful shoulder-fired rifle cartridge. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. Another bullet took a large buff from behind the rib cage, quartering forward. It makes a great all-around dangerous game cartridge. The largest rifle in my battery is a .30-'06 and I require nothing more powerful, but I've been a shooter for more than five decades and consider this a useful, well-written work. Bullet diameter: .458 in (11.6 mm) The test gun was a CZ 550 American Safari Magnum express rifle, a variant. of energy. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Which one is best then? 500 gr. One point for every 10 yards beyond 150 yards for maximum effective range on non-dangerous, medium and large game, respectively, and one point deducted for every 10 yards less than 150 yards. The exterior ballistics are virtually identical, and anything that can be said about the .375 H&H can be said about the .375 Ruger, minus the nostalgia. It's the Hybrid 46M, and it's rated for all centerfire pistol and rifle calibers. In the shooting sports we call that reaction recoil or "kick." Billed as the most powerful commercial cartridge in the world when it was introduced in 1958, Weatherby factory loads launch a 500 grain bullet at 2600 fps MV and a thunderous 7504 ft. lbs. Weatherby also entered the .458 game in 1957, with their .460 Weatherby Magnum. Despite its initial problems, the .458 quickly became hugely popular in Africa, due largely, I suspect, to the low cost of the Model 70 African rifle and the ammunition for it. A lot less. 28 Nosler 162 Grain Hornady ELD-X- The 28 Nosler is a 7mm (.284) caliber, rebated-rim centerfire rifle cartridge designed by Nosler.Introduced in 2015 and approved by SAAMI on January 19, 2015. had failed to stop. To date, we've had a short overview of the following big-bore cartridges, and the machinery that fires them, in comparison to my favorite Big Bore, the .458 Winchester Magnum: .404 Jeffery; .416 Rigby; .500 NE; .458 Lott; .416 Weatherby Magnum; .505 Gibbs; .460 Weatherby Magnum and, last week, the .470 NE. Recoil of the 460 is twice that of a 458 Win Mag, which is approximately 3 times that of a 45-70 lever rifle. Mag. A-Frame (.375 BC/.319 SD) at 2300 fps. While a .460 Weatherby Magnum will have greater killing power than a .416 Weatherby Magnum is true. It is hard to compare these two cartridges because of the difference in trajectories and energy's. The 375 H&H shoots a lot flatter than the 458 Lott but the Lott has 1200 to 1300 ft/lbs more energy. Roy Weatherby designed the 460 Weatherby Magnum, a belted, bottlenecked rifle cartridge, in 1958. I think too that cartridges like the .375 with their higher velocity shoot flatter as well and when one is hunting both dangerous and non-dangerous big game and especially when shooting at longer distances at non-dangerous game it is much easier to hit with the .375 because of its flatter trajectory. Enthusiasts pay for that performance level in the form of sharp and vicious recoil. The .458 Winchester Magnum is a belted, straight-taper cased, Big Five game rifle cartridge.It was introduced commercially in 1956 by Winchester and first chambered in the Winchester Model 70 African rifle. The group includes the big cats, the big bears, Cape buffalo, elephants, and the like. The .450/400 3-inch Nitro Express (or .400 Jeffery) was introduced in 1902 and was an update of the blackpowder .450/400 3 -inch cartridge. This means they are all suitable for average hunting ranges. MPBR for a ten-inch kill box illustrates the concept. reaches out almost as far as the .375 H&H, but it does have much more recoil. Bullets with a higher BC than the A-Frame increase their reach across the board. The unpretentious 9.3x62 Mauser is the working farmer and game wardens rifle in Africa. Anything under 40 caliber is a cap gun!!! What To Do When Your Rifle Breaks While On a Hunt, The Only Three Guns You Need to Go Hunting, Elk Venison and Root Vegetable Stew Recipe, Federal Terminal Ascent Hunting Bullet: Field Review, Tested Tough - Modern Zeiss Sports Optics. Mag., .458 Lott, .460 Weatherby. Two decades later, Ruger added its own .416 to the mix, necking the .375 Ruger up to .416, for Rigby performance from a long-action receiver. That includes 45 Auto, 10MM, .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, .45-70, .338 LM, and up to .460 Weatherby Magnum. John Rigby & Co. released the .450 Nitro Express in 1898, to improve the performance of the old .450 Black Powder Express by using modern, smokeless powder. It is considered an ideal cartridge for hunting African dangerous game and is capable of taking game from elephant to the duiker. The belted case takes up less room in the magazine, and is a bit more affordable than the Rigby variant, but no game animal would ever know the difference between the two. Now lets get into it. with 500-gr. Things went along just peachy for a while. . The problem is the recoil becomes too much for many of us. ME from a 26" barrel. Enter gun writer Jack Lott who, while hunting Cape buffalo with a .458 in Mozambique in 1959, received a stomping from a bull that was unimpressed with the Winchester round. It worked so well it became the standard for large game, including both African and Asian elephants, buffalo, tigers, lions, and rhinoceros. While Robert Ruark made the .416 Rigby famous in the hands of Harry Selby in his "Horn of the Hunter," it was the .404 Jeffery that did the lion's share of the work in the hands of numerous Game Departments across Africa. All these cartridges will stop ferocious beasts at close range. I have taken several cape buffalo and an elephant with the .458 and found it to be very much up to the task. It's based on a.378 Weatherby Magnum that's been necked up to take a.458-inch (11.6 mm) bullet. Nov 13, 2007. 400 gr A-Frame (.367 BC/.330 SD) at 2400 fps. and Lott are viable close range deer and elk cartridges if loaded to lower pressures with lighter bullets. The rifle was a right-handed bolt, and Selby shot it left-handed. The added powder capacity, as well as advances in powder technology, made achieving Winchester's goal with the Win Mag round easily achievable. If you get 550 grain bullet at 2100fps good. Id say penetration was more than adequate. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. Perhaps there was a concern in the 1950s that the Communists were going to provide body armor to buffalo in an attempt to humiliate the American Imperialists. What follows is a short list of cartridges that have proved, over timesometimes a great deal of timethat they can put an instant end to the careers of vary large, very angry wildlife that is about to do you in. The gun trade has to live somehow and every rifle sale and purchase is money in their pocket. It packs plenty of punch. WTK .416 weatherby vs. .460 weatherby The Art of the Rifle: General . The .458 Winchester Magnum remains one of the most . Mag. Location: South Carolina. At the time, the .458 Win. The much-decreased recoil of such loadings is a benefit. Few, if any, cartridges are as versatile as the .375 H&H. Armed with a quality rifle chambered for the .458 Win Mag, and the ability to shoot it accurately, the hunter need fear very little in today's hunting world. After WWII, when the supplies of British ammunition began to dry up, Winchester saw an opportunity to fill the void, introducing their .458 Winchester Magnum in 1956. The Lott delivers the goods (i.e., .450 NE ballistics) without excessive pressures. Posts: 3,611 . The A-Frame penetrates deep into heavy, tough animals such as Cape buffalo, yet expands well enough for use against large, non-dangerous game (elk, moose, kudu, etc.). (L-R): 9.3x62, .30-06, 8x57, 6.5x55, .308, Kalshnikov at en. for the Gibbs). 5,5 mm 5,6 x 52 r . SDs greater than .300 are preferred for dangerous game. Fit for everything from deer to the Big Five. Taking my first shots with the 460 today. The result was that no rifle/round combination I know of has a better reputation than a .416 Rigby. The 460 Weatherby Magnum case is made from a necked up.378 Weatherby Magnum case. A double rifle is perhaps the best choice for up close and personal dangerous game work. Mag., and .404 Jeffery. Without ammunition they were essentially useless. bhpo, the point you are trying to make has far less merit than arguing over the virtues of the .458. Note that Roy Weatherby killed and dropped, in its tracks, a Cape Buffalo with one shot from his .257 Weatherby Magnum. If you are on a plains game hunt in Africa, but decide to get a cull license for a Cape buffalo while in the field, either the .375 H&H or .416 Rem. Cartouches flash-ball; Cartouches 9 mm; Cartouches 8 mm; Cartouches de dfense calibre 12; Cartouches de dfense calibre 16; Cartouches blanc; Or a 600 grain bullet at 2400 fps you are maxed out. F5MFG MP5 50 round drum mag . Imagine a bullet arcing through a six-inch diameter pipe for a certain distance and you have the idea. The toughest 50-round drum magazine for the MP5 on the market! Nicely done, Mr. Bonham! Few .458 Winchester rifles wore a barrel that long, and almost none attained that velocityat least in the first few decades of existence. If you do have such a rifle the first thing you need to do is run a chronograph test with your ammo and rifle to see if you are getting more than 2,100 fps. (In 1949, a young PH named Harry Selby bought a .416 Rigby in Nairobi after his double rifle was run over by a truck. <p>New 2nd generation redesigned version. The .416 Rigby is by far the older of the two, the design of the London gunmaker John Rigby and Company, and appeared in 1911. The 460 moves 450- to 600-grain .458" bullets much faster than any other commercial rifle; or, when loaded down, moves them at a somewhat reduced speed at significantly lower pressure. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. 280 Remington; 284 Win; 30 Carbine; 30 Nosler; 30 Rem AR; 30 Remington; 30 TC; 30-06; 30-30 Win; 30-378 Wby Mag; 30-40 Krag; 300 BLK; 300 H&H; 300 Norma Mag; 300 Pegasus; 300 PRC; 300 RCM; 300 Rem . Lott's condemnation lead to decreased sales for the .458 Win Mag until Winchester switched to a more temperature stable powder in the 1970s. Detailed performance figures are summarized in the table at the articles end. Most commercial ammunition makers offer at least one solid load for each cartridge tested, and all the cartridges here have a good reputation in the field with these bullets. Though the muzzle velocity may be rather sedate in comparison to some cartridges, the .450/400 3-inch is a wonderful cartridge for buffalo I took one in Mozambique in a trim Heym 89B double and even for elephant. The Lotts one handicap is its 70 foot-pounds of recoil. A Heym Model 89B in .470 Nitro Express, on safari. Glad you enjoyed reading my article as much as I enjoyed writing it. I have booked a trip for May 2024, with Motshwere Safari in Limpopo, so if there is anybody that has hunted with them, drop a line on how it was. This incident made him believe that ammo more powerful than the 458 Winchester ammo he was hunting with was vital for dangerous games. Notwithstanding, I know a number of professional hunters who have shot prodigious amounts of dangerous game with one, and will look at you strangely if you suggest that there might be something wrong with the .458. (L-R): .458 Win. 300 gr. The .404 Jeffery, an African workhorse that makes a great choice for dangerous game. 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