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The .17 Remington, on the other hand, is the darling of predator hunters protective over pelts. A newer powder that shows great promise is StaBall 6.5not only is it temperature insensitive and spherical (which makes charging cases easier), it is fast. Several five-shot groups fired at 100 yards measured less than 0.250 inch. Granted, the barrel had undoubtedly become fouled at this point in the test, with no means to remedy that. It made a huge difference for me on my group size. While seen at its best as a metallic silhouette cartridge, it will work on deer at relatively close ranges when loaded with the right bullet. The round was first loaded with an 87-grain bullet at the then-astounding velocity of 3,000 fps; the "3000" in its name was, of course, a marketing maneuver on the bullet speed. All rights reserved. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. It would not go 20 rounds without overheating the barrel and experiencing velocity excursions. CFE BLKs top velocity was 4,532 fps with this bullet using 18 grains of powder, but with poor accuracy. * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. While the 17 Fireball is about 300 fps slower with all bullet weights than the 17 Remington, it is probably more popular today because it burns about 20 percent less powder with each squeeze of the trigger. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. Having a burn speed close to H4198 and IMR 4198 makes CFE BLK suitable for use in a variety of applications, including the .17- and .22-caliber varmint cartridges covered in this report. I have tried just about every bullet made. Whereas squeezing in enough IMR 4198 to reach top velocities with those two can be challenging, maximum charges of CFE BLK drop in with a bit of room to spare. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. Plus, whats not to like about a cartridge with a near absence of recoil that shoots flat enough to take small game out to 300 yards? Alliant Reloder 7, Hodgdon H-322 and Ramshot TAC were paired with this bullet. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. As with the above V-Max-equipped offerings, this load is best relegated to targets and non-edible species. . In addition to stabilizing in a 1:16 twist, their thin jackets make them more effective on varmints than bullets of the same weight and even lighter that are constructed for cartridges of higher velocities. Seventeen-caliber cartridges have always fascinated a certain group of handloaders for some mystical reason. The Remington Model 700 SPS Varmint test rifles included a heavy (.82 inch at muzzle) 26-inch barrel and held a Swarovski Optik 3.5-28x50 P scope set atop Precision Hardcore Gears Tru-Level Picatinny rail. It is based on a necked-down .223 Remington case and uses a .172 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those looking for small-caliber performance with minimal recoil. Those are not huge differences in bullet drop and drift between the two bullet diameters, although the .22s do deliver more energy to the target. As I mentioned, running the case through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die bumps back the shoulder, allowing it to fit into the Ackley chamber. On the faster burning end of the usable spectrum, and with lighter bullets powders like H322 can deliver astonishingly high velocity with excellent accuracy. Muzzle velocity was 3,488 fps at a chamber pressure of 46,400 psi. A sleeper that works very well is W760 and its stablemate H414. The powder weights for all the loads but one listed in the table were weighed as precisely as I could on a balance scale. So much for this rifle not caring for 25-grain bullets. When dropped from a powder measure, an 18.0-grain charge fills a Winchester case almost to the brim, so when applied to those two bullet weights only, the word maximum indicates that 18.0 grains is the maximum amount of CFE BLK the case will hold. The best groups resulted from 18 grains of N133 (.66 inch at 3,822 fps, including very low extreme velocity spreads), a 19 grain maximum load of IMR-8308 XBR (.73-inch at 3,874 fps) and 16 grains of LT-30 (.75 inch at 3,622 fps). Remember, the above accuracy results are averages with all brands of ammunition tested. 17 September 2002, 13:14. by an Oregon gunsmith and was exactly right for this small cartridge. The SCAR 15P is chambered for 5.56 NATO and, with its 7.5-inch barrel, is the most compact SCAR to date. The .17 Hornet will become a very popular cartridge if it garners even a small percentage of the .17 rimfires popularity. Due to a higher density, more CFE BLK can be packed into a case. The 20 grn Vmax had better accuracy and Mr. Nagels 20 grain pill was the most accurate. Ackleys little cartridge, but loading CFE BLK is faster because it flows through a good powder measure with much greater uniformity in charge weight. This little gem was introduced originally by Remington in 1971, though similar wildcats had undoubtedly existed for many years prior. If you like cutting-edge firearms based on the wildly popular AR-15 rifle, this, Arguably the Rolls Royce of centerfire 17s, Cooper's, One of the best values in rimfire bolt actions, this, Fans of traditional styling and controlled-feed actions love, During a bear hunt in Canada one year, I discovered that, In reality, your best bet for a .17 Remington-caliber rifle is to pick one up used via, Built more like a true big game rifle than any other rimfire bolt action, Ruger's, Of unique design and featuring specialized operating characteristics required to reliably function the stout .17 WSM cartridge, Savage's. Precision Redding full-length Type S Match Dies with .195-inch titanium nitride sizing bushing and micro-adjustable seating-die head were used. #1 Lilja barrel shipped 2 days ago. After thoroughly cleaning the tube at home, for instance, the added 25-grain Hornady V-MAX loads assembled impressive clusters. Using bullets from Hornady V-Max, Hornady V-Max or HP. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several lead-free projectiles add to the .280's versatility. Zero the .17 Ackley Hornet with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max at 3,600 fps two inches high at 100 yards and it is two inches high at 200 yards and four inches low at 300. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Colt Model 1861 Special Musket: What's Its Value? On the other end of the stick, almost all firearm manufacturers offer rimfire rifles chambered in .17 HMR, so shooters can pick and choose. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 77 loads. Hammer Bullets 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. Patrick. In 2007, Remington Arms introduced a new rifle cartridge based on their 221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. My rifle is extremely accurate with the Hornady 40-grain V-Max and Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip, but it will not completely stabilize the 50-grain versions of those two bullets. Unfortunately, our choices have become very sparse, but the V-MAX and the Berger HP both work better than the lighter bullets. When preparing loads for the Marlin rifle, I started with two flatnose bullets: the Hornady 45-grain hollowpoint and the Speer 46-grain softnose. If the owner of that first rifle in 17 Ackley Hornet were still here, he would likely be tickled to see a load with his favorite powder slightly better the accuracy of CFE BLK. My midway order just showed up with a box of the 20gr noslers and 25gr hornady hp. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. Joined: Dec 2015. There are a wide variety of custom makers that currently sell various configurations of hollowpoints and even softpoints in .17 calibera quick search on the net will show the way. This bullet was good in its day and set the tone for the .17s reputation as an excellent pelt caliber. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. ONeil of OKH fame. Expecting to receive a half-dozen or so, I was quite surprised after opening the package to see more than 30 different cartridges ranging in size from the .17 Lilliput on a shortened .22 Hornet case to the .17 Swift on the full-length .220 Swift case. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. LilGun delivered much lower extreme spreads of 45 to 69 fps. Some 6mm Rem AI shooters prefer to shoot the 87gr V-Max from a 10-twist barrel.The 6mm Rem AI set up with a 10-twist barrel to shoot the 87gr V-Max is about the ultimate long-range varmint caliber one could ever . It is a very small bore, very high-pressure round and as such, it fouls just like a similar, larger cartridge (think .22/250 or .220 Swifteven the .204 Ruger). Likewise, only a few models exist for Hornady's new .17 Hornet, and rare too are rifles currently chambered in the uncommon but long-lived .17 Remington. at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards. CZ calls the 527 a micro-Mauser due to its nonrotating claw extractor that grabs the rim of a case as its pushed forward out of the magazine and blade ejector. Hornady HP. Smooth flow is also convenient to those who load on a single-stage press as it allows powder charges to be dispensed by a measure as opposed to the slower method of weighing each charge. I'll second the 4320. Chances are, if theyre a shooter, they have a .17-caliber rifle tucked away someplace. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. 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