Its constantly shifting. I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Whod have thought?, Anything with me in it. PKM: That makes sense. Loyal to the core! THE LONESOME DEATH OF DANNY RAPP: THE FRONT MAN FOR DANNY & THE JUNIORS, YOU CANT WIN: WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS AND THE REAL JACK BLACK, JONI MITCHELL: A RECKLESS DAUGHTERS BRILLIANT JOURNEY, MY DAD IS DEAD: IMPECCABLE POST-PUNK ANGST STRAIGHT OUTTA CLEVELAND. Its me, Eddie by Eddie Limonov https://literaryreview.co.uk/its-me-eddie, 2. We were dedicated to that. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. Nevertheless, Lias styled it out. PKM: Lets talk about your prose writing a bit: Life Beyond the Neutral Zone, was wonderful to read, I had so much fun reading that. They make me powerful. One of the people behind the festivals high-concept clubbing area Block9, Gideon Berger, had been one of those early fans of Come To Me Villa, and he booked Decius for a brief live slot at the zones central queer club The NYC Downlow, which was modelled after New Yorks legendary 80s venue Paradise Garage. Continue this thread. Thats more like it. Everyone was naked, fucking each other on a cocktail of drugs and it never stopped. Keep a lid on it till somebody finds a vaccine? But how will COVID-19 effect gigs? You have to give up on that yourself., 'Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe is out on Thursday 24 February, published by White Rabbit (20), Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies. Their latest, for Look Like A Man (premiering exclusively with tQ above), finds Lias his features glamourised into the uncanny valley by augmented reality filter, his voice pitch-shifted up looming and gyrating from a platform at The Cause. Its got to be one of the bravest, boldest records Ive heard in years its the brutal honesty combined with the acerbic wit of the lyricism that does it for me. Then we all got Covid. As a wholly independent publication, we rely entirely on our ad bookings to keep The Quietus going. I had never been a words man really but in that moment I was changed forever. Join Facebook to connect with Lias Kaci Saoudi and others you may know. Read the choicest cuts from the Quietus archive: reviews, features and opinion, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, Stalker Humanoids: The ERC, Maxine Peake & Lias Saoudi Interviewed, No Sleep 'Til Notting Hill: The Moonlandingz Interviewed, Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi To Publish Biography Of The Band, Peer Review: Joel Gibb Interviews Owen Pallett And Vice Versa, TQ's John Doran To Host Metal Modernism Event In Brighton, Ben Gregory Details Debut Album, Shares New Essay, Monsters Vs. Nazis: Margaret Killjoy Of Feminazgl On Anti-Fascist Black Metal, Virtual Mentors: Arooj Aftab's Favourite Albums, Magical Cuts: Anthony Surgeon Childs Favourite Music, Love Songs And Monster Songs: Jad Fair's Favourite Albums, Stop, Collaborate And Listen: Meg Remy's Favourite Albums, Leather Jacket-Worthy: Lawrence's Favourite Albums. Whos to say what is and isnt personal to someone? It was a bit heavy, that. Change). Its a strange time for that to suddenly be a prospect again, like things werent bad enough. It would've been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad . Then, one evening lying on her bed alone while she was in the bathroom next door getting ready to go out, Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie came over the stereo, which is basically just a poem about the nature of integrity inspired by Guthries Bound For Glory. And a birthday shout-out (in cartoon form) to . It wouldve been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad was into him. Key West is ineffable. Eventually, though, they started to build up a substantial catalogue, so we thought we should start acting in a way thats more like someone who actually wants to do something, Liam jokes. It baffles me that people go out and do that for pleasure at those big gigs., The line about anal sex and I love the one about take the only tree thats left and stick it up the hole in your culture, I love the meanness of that. Im very proud of that background. Fat White Familys Lias Saoudi, Paranoid Londons Quinn Whalley, and Trashmouth Records Luke and Liam May discuss their sleazy, seedy new project Decius, In 2013 Lias Saoudi, who was then laying low in Berlin after the recording of his band Fat White Familys debut album Champagne Holocaust, went out to Berghain. Its really hard to find that place again once its got some kudos, then youre suddenly in this hall of mirrors of anxiety and expectation. The river split at that point because youre just on completely different psychic wavelengths. As a wholly independent publication, we rely entirely on our ad bookings to keep The Quietus going. But this was just spellbinding, it was such a dense experience. On the night of the terrorist attack at the Bataclan in Paris in November 2015, when Fat White Family were performing at another venue in the city, we are told that Saul had commanded the rest of the band to stay in the dressing room, informing them, Its the safest place we can be. His first book, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure,co-written with Adelle Stripe (Black Teeth and a Brilliant Smile, Bloomsbury, 2019), is described by Miranda Sawyer inThe Observeras the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace. Lias Saoudi performing with Fat White Family performs at South Facing festival, London, in August last year. (LogOut/ Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi. The Grass Arena by John Healy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, 5. Photo courtesy of Lias Saoudi. So yes, one day I genuinely had to stop myself driving up to London and finding him [Lias Saoudi, Fat White Family frontman] because I go through fits and pangs of, like: 'Fuck off, just leave us . With thanks to Adelle Stripe. How can you tell these people not to get out and protest? . Fat White Family will be back in NYC this week for CMJ, having been added to the NME showcase at Glasslands on Wednesday (10/22) with Public Access TV, Bo Ningen, Twin Peaks, Happyness, The Wytches, and Girlpool. Its a divorce. A feast of snakes by Harry Crews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_of_Snakes, 6. Lead singer of Fat White Family, Lias Saoudi, self-pens a Baker's Dozen of thirteen musical choices that map his early life to the present day, from Ireland to Scotland, Cambodia to Algeria, via dark country and the howling void. This is the definitive account of Fat White Family's disgraceful and . So I just did way too much Charlie. With Luke, Liam and Quinn playing behind him in custom-built black boxes, he strode out onto the catwalk stage in a gold suit, doing his best to impress the disgustingly beautiful people absolutely everywhere as he strutted, but when it came time to sing his first note, he instead vomited all over the stage and audience. I had decided some time ago that I was on my way to London at the soonest possible occasion to study art. We definitely justified our bookings once we played. Yet the band still tried to keep an emphasis on things remaining hassle free. I didnt want to sit and watch Countdown., Well, thats not quite true. THIS IS WHATS COOL! PS: theres a playlist of music referred to inGood Pop, Bad Pop you can get a sneak peekhere. Not a chance. To a certain extent Ive had things that I want. Our government and your governmentits almost like nobody actually knows what theyre doing. Guideline Price: 20. Lias Saoudi is the co-author of Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, which is published by White Rabbit. Looking at it all written down and placing yourself within it, building a narrative out of it it was like, man, that was f***ed up. When I speak to Stripe the following day, she says she often felt like Dr Melfi sitting with Tony Soprano. Lias Saoudi: It was really good. I continued amassing a collection after moving to London at age 18 to study art, even adding a vinyl section to my library once the time was right. Limits to Medicine by Ivan Illich https://joannamoncrieff.com/2016/04/18/limits-to-medicine-re-visiting-ivan-illich/, 3. [3], They released their debut album, Champagne Holocaust, in 2013, on UK label Trashmouth Records. And sometimes thats something I can really dig into and make a use out of, like literally make a song and dance out of it, and sometimes you feel kind of homeless. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. But I think being half Algerian, raised in Northern Ireland and Scotlandtheres some sort of connection there, between the Berber people and the Celtic people, you know? He was waiting for the man., What did the band make of the book? Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. I think if it was more synthetic and Hollywood, it wouldnt conjure up the same terror, but because the 80s production is a bit shoddy it feels more believable. Nothing all that personal is ever laid on the table. Theres every kind of sentiment to be explored. PKM: Absolutely. Their unsparing lyrics are often an expose of our best and worst qualities as a species, intermingled so closely that good and bad and right and wrong become hopelessly confused. Come To Me Villas initial non-descript launch was back in 2014 (at the beginning of last year it received a more publicized re-release as a full EP), with further one-off releases coming once a year in 2015, 2016 and 2017. They were musical geniuses. I prefer to draw no line., Saoudi has found his stride now, but he pauses briefly to finish his Guinness. But singer Lias Saoudi and his compatriots had no such trouble. To many in 21 st century Britain, the days of overtly political music are over, but not for Lias and his co-songwriter Saul Adamczewski, who is an admirer of 1990s post-punk outfit The Make-Up for . 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You can get in with a CMJ badge too (based on capacity). THE SHOCKING LIVE TELEVISION SUICIDE OF A NEWS ANCHOR! Lias Saoudi: Maybe I dont have to, but thats the image, isnt it? Id go as far as saying its tantamount to blaming the slave for his chains. Retrieved 7 May 2021. Debaucherous UK band Fat White Family were in NYC over the weekend, playing Bowery Ballroom on Saturday night (10/18). Given the complete absence of any kind of social life I was incredibly studious and this proved easy to accomplish. Last time I saw him it was complete shithouse, he has a rep for shithouse live gigs which hes carefully cultivated for about 30 years. I went to this gig last October. It was the most incredible setting: a church with the largest church organ in France. Hes at liberty to capitulate if he likes, says Saoudi, who uses the word in Fat White Family song Feet. Youre not from a middle class background. All good songs have this bit where you cant really half-sing it, youve either got to chuck your lot in or not bother at all. Along with author Adelle Stripe, Saoudi wrote, Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure. Raina Lampkins-Fielder introduced me to the work of the Gees Bend quilt-makers. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. The band were surprised, they say, when some people they showed it to were concerned about their choice of imagery. Lead singer Lias Saoudi, already half naked and sweating like Usain Bolt at the finish line, jittered to the front of the stage like a character in a Chris Cunningham music video and the band belted in unison, "AH AH AHHHH AHHH AHHHHHHH!" . Lias Saoudi, frontman of Fat White Family, has said he's working on a book about sex therapy.. READ MORE: Fat White Family live in London - long-awaited return of gigs finds the band on . A couple of days ago I recorded this episode of the podcast with the group's brothers, Lias and Nathan Saoudi, who told me . It was just this completely nightmarish situation.. Lias Saoudi: Its difficult to quantify something like that, really, because its just your nature. Humanitarian man of letters? How was the show, apart from being in-the-raw and in-your-face? Typical of my big brother, hes so irresponsible in so many ways. Im sorry. Hes never on his way to the party, hes always like, Do you know what? Why not? There are no real rules, he continues. Nor does Saoudi, who turns 36 next month but certainly hasnt softened. He wrote, "In a state of frenzied arrogance around 18 months ago I took it upon myself to hurl a few digital petrol bombs at some of the country's most beloved acts from the comfort of my hovel in Streatham. Why am I standing in front of a stage looking at some questionable hero? Lias Saoudi: Its one of those things that just doesnt work. PKM: Of course you will. Debaucherous UK band Fat White Family were in NYC over the weekend, playing Bowery Ballroom on Saturday night (10/18). Co-edited by Gillian McCain and Legs McNeil, the authors of, The Knack had an amazing sound. A dependency on streaming poured into the gaping hole left behind. My girlfriends family lived on one of those Prod estates with the murals, union jacks and red, white and blue curbs. All that competitive kind of thing, everybody trampling to get this and thatits all gone, which feels like a bit of a relief. [17] Writing in the Observer, Miranda Sawyer described it as 'the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace.' DiS: What are your plans for Christmas and the New Year? Gift them a month or a full year. Any hardcore fans of the Fat White Family will be greatly relieved to know that the famously tempestuous band were not locked down together, an occurrence which would surely have resulted in injury, death, or nervous breakdowns. (LogOut/ Anybody, regardless of who you are, if you are addicted to heroin and crack, and you are living in a crack house, you are not going to behave in a way that is palatable. Saoudi, on the other hand, tells me that, generally speaking, Saul was kind of like, nah, it should be worse. 250 subscribers in the TheFatWhiteFamily community. 22/09/2020. Ladies and Gentlemen, this then is Lias Saoudi. For news and discussion about South-Londons finest. In recent years Ive noticed this awful feeling creeping over me every time I pick up my phone to select a track if theres folks round my flat. And it doesnt matter which part of the media spectrum you go to, theyre all trying to crank it up to the max, so they can raise their heads above the parapet, above the din. By the time youve finished tinkering with them and fucking about with them you never want to hear from them ever again. It made me think of London, which was not a place Id ever been but youre almost mourning this place thats not even real to you. I think that the way the protests have broken out is really hopeful. And making a music video is like hanging them up on a meat hook in the public square, you dont want anything to do with that ever again. Lias Saudi, performing here with Fat White Family at End of the Road Festival in Farnham in 2018, made a solo appearance at the Windwmill in Brixton as the second lockdown looms BURAK CINGI . Johnny Vaughan and Denise Van Outen, they was a pair. We were embroiled in this, not satanic ritual, but adjacent, and a kind of alcoholic abyss, he says. Fat White Family are an English rock band, formed in 2011 in Peckham, South London. Or listen to our Sweet 16 live podcast series. #fatwhitefamily, @-webkit-keyframes"dkaXkpbBxI"{ 0%{opacity:0.5;} 50%{opacity:1;} 100%{opacity:0.5;} } @keyframes"dkaXkpbBxI"{ 0%{opacity:0.5;} 50%{opacity:1;} 100%{opacity:0.5;} }, Fat White Family last night at Bowery Ballroom. Lias Saoudi: Its difficult to do if youre on your own. Their debut album, Decius Vol. And Ill be tired of being around drugs and boozing and all that stuff, so I was thinking, if I slowly usher myself into that other realm, maybe Ill make it out alive. Im in some sort of musical cul-de-sac at the moment Im either listening to ambient or Bob Dylan. Id go out and buy one. I associate that accent with my mum, so theres an inherent innocence to all the characters that makes it absolutely visceral. ", In response to Talbot's comments about nearly driving to London to find Saoudi, the Fat White Family added, "If Joe wants to get in his car and drive to London to mete out some form of rough justice on account of my expressing my opinion about his group thats fine with me. Its not a bad show, you know., Enjoy unlimited access to 70 million ad-free songs and podcasts with Amazon Music Sign up now for a 30-day free trial, He pauses. So what happened? Lias thinks that Idles' lyrics and politics feel like feel-good corporate sloganeering that turns moral certitude into cultural capital without digging any deeper into material reality or the human condition, which isn't what good art does. I took to rendering my own image in charcoal, gouache and oil paint posturing like Egon Schiele whom I severely admired. The sold-out crowd parted like the Red Sea, due to the fact that the band smelled like they'd spent the day swimming in a Staten . LOUD AND QUIET 2023. The band were supposed to do an ultra-late-night set at Baby's All Right but it ended up not happening. You cant get a bunch of people in a building together to celebrate music with a lot of alcohol and the rest of it and expect them to follow social distancing. The minute lockdown started to get eased in London, the old devils crept back in. It went down really well! insists Quinn, who says the gig in fact ended up being pivotal in inspiring the band to keep stepping things up. B orn in Southampton to an Algerian father and a Yorkshire coalminer mother, Lias Saoudi grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before studying at London's Slade School of Fine Art. If youve got 50,000 followers, then youve basically got a little TV channel. A Fat White Family concert is a portal; a door leading, not out of our present dimension, but more deeply into it than we would prefer to look. It was the only thing I used to whinge about; the constant Dylan. I dont really belong anywhere, you know? I can count the times Ive gone to pick up heroin on the street, like, on two hands.. The Fat White Family frontman on sonically tripping to Sarah Davachi, rewatching Threads and a heroic history of poo in art. ", Yesterday (22 September), Saoudi posted an essay on The Social clarifying his opinion on IDLES. (LogOut/ Itll be a heavy day., Decius are a supergroup made up of Paranoid London and Warmduscher members with Lias Saoudi as frontman. He is published inTheNew Frontier: Reflections From the Irish Border(New Island Books, 2021) an anthology of new writing from some of Irelands greatest contemporary authors marking the centenary of partition. Nihilist? I hate videos that dont have rhythm, some are really elaborate and have a story or whatever, but most of the time I think they detract from the music, says Luke. I used to get my pocket money on a Thursday from my mum and then go down to the record shop in Cookstown, Northern Ireland, and buy one or two CDs every week until I had a collection., I was really young, I mustve been ten or something. [20], In January 2017, Adamczewski formed the band Insecure Men with Lennon (guitar), Ben Romans-Hopcraft (bass), Jack Everett (drums), Jon Catfish de Lorene (keyboards) and Alex White (saxophone). The book pulls no punches. Like, How can we fuck everybody off?. I had moved there from the west coast of Scotland after my parents split up several years before, my mum having married an accountant from the area after throwing in the towel with my dad. That hasnt been shut off yet. Lias Saoudi: Exactly. The publisher, White Rabbit Books, shared the news on their social media channels, writing: "Announcing Ten Thousand Apologies , Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi.". Fat White Family's next single, "Breaking Into Aldi", was released on 16 August 2016. ", Saoudi continued, "The group claim that vulnerability is their armour, where exactly is all of this vulnerability? It reminds me of Mark E Smiths freewheeling, deranged memoir, Renegade. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Drugs, alcohol and ego almost tore Britains most provocative band apart, as a no-holds-barred memoir of the group reveals. Sometimes, I think having spent over ten years with the Fat Whites has left me associating music itself with multi-faceted trauma: I blame the music, its the musics fault, if it werent for the music, youd have freed yourself and the rest of the population long ago! Fat White Family vocalist Lias Saoudi has shared a new essay clarifying his view on IDLES after Joe Talbot spoke about their beef in a recent interview. Put a blanket ban on a term? Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. I cant stop listening to it. But if you dont, its all about that early period where youre learning about the kind of communal experience and the way you feed off an energy in a crowd and theres this kind of like cyclone that gets whipped up. Her mother would bring us 6 bottles of Miller beer and order us a pizza on a Friday night. Group claim that vulnerability is their armour, where exactly is all this! 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