So should I just be buying in a regular account with Vangaurd or Betterment? I really like these points except for the investing advises. Stocks -- Part XIII: The 4% rule, withdrawal rates and how much can I spend anyway? 3rd for any investable money left, back to the 401k. Stocks -- Part XXXI: Too hot. Addendum 5: Some suggest my 50% target savings rate is too aggressive. Think decades. Many or all of the offers on this site are from companies from which Insider receives compensation (for a full list. It will instead be called a distribution fee, or theyll back-door tax the companies that hold the funds and call it an administration fee or something like that (which of course gets passed on to the owner.) By the way, it is a Roth TSP. Why did you feel the need to fake a reason and how was the capital lost? You dont want to run with this crowd. I cant wait to hear your theory on hunters and gatherers. -Some 5 year CDs that comprise a few years of birthday gifts My guess is just engaging your kids in the conversation will go a long way. Having emergency savings can provide me with some peace of mind knowing that I can financially handle the surprises that life could throw my way, so I've always opted to save more. Debt free. How I lost money in real estate before it was fashionable, Part I: Impossibly Naive. I believe it has to be voluntary, but I stack the deck in the favor of what I thing will have the biggest payoff. We also spend a big chunk on travel, about 20k this year. How much you like those will determine the allocation. Experiencing cultures in the developing world and living with people from the developing world. @JLCollinsNH. https://jlcollinsnh.com/2018/03/16/stocks-part-xxxii-why-you-should-not-be-in-the-stock-market/, Taxes in retirement: She saw your behavior for her whole life, which matters far more than your words in the long run. Thanks for stopping in and leaving some comments! The chart in your addendum showing the % set aside and the number of years it would take to retireis that based off a certain income? Slow reply on my behalf too, I just posted it now. I understand the advice to your daughter, but do you also subscribe to the same advice for yourself regarding VTSAX? If so, you have to consider the impact of capital gains if any. I come from an economically depressed area of the US , so I never learned about money or respected it. A regular IRA is tax deductable in the year of contribution and your kids income must be below certain limits to open one. The negligence that led me to DIY investing, Part XXXVI: Estate Planning 101 -- The Simple Path to an Estate Plan, The Top 9 (Bad) Arguments Against Bitcoin, Investing with Vanguard for Europeans: 2020 update. During his career,. COVID-19: The unvarnished truth from Doc G. Mr. Bear, Podcasts, a good book and why I should be in 100% stocks, A Guided Meditation for When the Stock Market Is Dropping, 7 Days in Heaven: or Why Slowing Down Will Get You There Sooner, Stocks -- Part XXXV: Investing for Seven Generations, Chautauqua 2019 - UK & Portugal - Tickets Now Available, Car Talk: An update on Steve and looking at Leafs. My daughter admits at least some of it sunk in and she even makes comments that confirm it. Glad you are enjoying the blog. Debt, whether good or bad, represents an amount that you owe to someone else. Will definitely update everyone here with my progress, especially if it involves swearing and tears when the roller coaster ride is on the way down. I got scholarships and use 2k-3k out of $X every semester to pay for tuition, housing, room and board, and books. It is difficult to give you specific advice without knowing a lot more about you, your income, family, age, goals et al. Say, $30,000 a year? If you havent already, be sure to read the stock series on this blog. Maybe it wasnt me. Thanks! Could you please advise? Being 27 Ill stick with this for a while before needing to look at it again. Id eager to get started so Im tempted to just go ahead with the VTSMX, but I dont want Uncle Sam taxing the dividends if its not in an IRA. 25K at edward jones (hoping to pull the plug on the manager soon) Using the 4% annual withdrawal guideline, a nest egg of $476,477 would net you $19059.08 annually which exceeds your living expenses of $18k which we came to above. Lots of Canadians helping Canadians there. The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins is designed as a one-stop roadmap to financial freedom. Okay, Jim Regarding point 3. When others are greedy, be fearful. Sound advice. What she got in return for her money was a promise that the insurance company would send her a monthly check. I am 27 and dont have much experience in personal finance. As I said to Trish above, simple gets better results. CRSP US Total Market Index Since shell be in a low tax bracket and taxes are likely to be much higher years from now this is a great deal. if so what do you recommend? First, $10,000 is only the minimum if you are looking at an Admiral Shares version of a fund, like VTSAX. I wish I could have read this and really understood it back when it was written in 2011. Congratulations on your progress so far. I found it through MMM. So you might want to think carefully about your personal preferences. I have 0 debt and I make good money. Why not just invest in the individual stocks that VTSAX owns? I have a suggestion for a title such as the story of the prodigal daughter or something to that extent. No dividend reinvestment. Try a simple browser search for ETF or VTI (hint: no, theres no real difference). Do me a favor? I left the same year 2007/2008 Looking back, I wished I would have dumped half my salary in it! So, this is not a gospel, but a guideline. Or not. Chautauqua 2014: Lightning strikes again! However, I was grateful that a man named JL Collins took the time to write this book and explain how readers could build wealth with a simple, easy-to-understand formula. Today, in our compliant world, those with many of those same skills are outcast and given the label ADD attention deficit DISORDER! So, what does a month in Ecuador cost anyway? Great to see you here. 20K personal loan to a friend hoping for 2% return over next two years Hopefully youll get paid back. Here is what you need to know: https://jlcollinsnh.com/stock-series/, I would have loved to read this when I was in my twenties, but I am not late, would have been a really great advice! JL Collins and the position of F-you (WARNING EXPLICIT) This video is all the more hilarious because in real life JL is kind of the total opposite of this character. Unless your kid is a child star this shouldnt be a problem. Nice blog just signed up on the mailing list. As for 2025, Ill be happy if I can still get out of bed and draw breathe by then. Her money is GONE. Roth IRA started in Vanguard 10K The negligence that led me to DIY investing, Part XXXVI: Estate Planning 101 -- The Simple Path to an Estate Plan, The Top 9 (Bad) Arguments Against Bitcoin, Investing with Vanguard for Europeans: 2020 update. Fortunately, I have them already written: Once youve read those posts youll understand what the stock market really is, how to invest in it and why youll need to be ready and able to accept its periodic plunges. Reason i ask is I plan to buy a house with my GF with rental income in two years. Too much can happen as the years roll by. I am 34 and will probably have to work for another 20 years so looking at long term investing. I have $6k in an online savings account (Ally) and want to start investing immediately with Vanguards VTSMX. Second, are your EJ funds in a taxable account? You can read more of his story inside. Stick with Vanguard. Stocks -- Part VII: Can everyone really retire a millionaire? Thank you. Vanguard link here: https://www.vanguardinvestments.com.au/retail/ret/investments/funddetailVISIF.jsp My wife still works and loves her job at the local school. Im guessing a brokerage account because 50% of my income (which I now save) is far more than 5,500 a year. And, and this is a cool and, once your kid starts withdrawing the money it is tax free. . That is the highest praise of all. I had given your advice to my kids though 12 years ago who are now in their late 20s. So, what does a month in Ecuador cost anyway? If you care to, Id be interested in hearing more about your experiment. Im still in my late 30s, and that will be over soon Ive travelled and lived mostly in developing countries. I have a little money in an old checking account that earns a couple pennies a year and each as a teacher I have a little time each summer to work off jobs and one will make me 10k. Its best to take action based on what we know now. Thats where Jessicas VTSAX fund is. Great article. In many ways it covers most everything I have to offer on the subject. 18,994 ratings1,666 reviews "In the dark, bewildering, trap-infested jungle of misinformation and opaque riddles that is the world of investment, JL Collins is the fatherly wizard on the side of the path, offering a simple map, warm words of encouragement and the tools to forge your way through with confidence. Do you see any concerns with this plan? He cant handle much. And so, I got Jessica. How I failed my daughter and a simple path to wealth by jlcollinsnh 220 Comments Literally since the day she was born people have been complimenting my daughter. Well written blog. Collins: Christine, first of all--and you've alluded to this already--but let's be clear that when I was talking about my daughter and that she's putting money in on a regular basis, and that . Can I do that if everything is in my Roth? In the one area I actively tried to influence her, I failed miserably. If something is not internally motivated, are external motivators appropriate? If we use this calculator: http://www.globalrph.com/invcomp.cgi, and we assume an 8% annual return over the 40 years until you are 65, that comes to Am I missing something? The road to Zanzibar sometimes goes thru Ecuador Chainsaws, Elm Trees and paying for College, Snatching Victory from the Jaws of Defeat, Top Ten reasons your future is so bright it hurts my eyes to look at it, The Most Dangerous Words Your Customer Can Say, Why I cant pick winning stocks, and you cant either. Many, many thanks for your advice and your quick reply. Happy Birthday, jlcollinsnh; and thanks for the gift Mr. MM! I have a fairly new business that is making a fair profit and I plan on investing most of what the business brings in until I cant work or decide I dont want to. Great article and even greater follow-up discussions. Time was I would have suggested that, being in a low tax bracket, you chose a Roth. Id like to start him off with $250-500 and go from there, but I dont know where the best place would be. Is it too late for me to follow these steps such that I could be free in 10 12 years or sooner or do no longer have time to make this work? Sincerely, Mark. Ive sat hesitant with $120k in a high interest savings account unable to pull the trigger on anything due to constantly researching conflicting opinions from researches, investors and gurus. I wouldnt vary it, even with REITS and bonds in the mix, as they should be once you move to the wealth preservation phase. Ideally, we are passing on fiscal lessons that will make them mature enough at those ages to take control of those accounts, but that remains to be seen. JL Collins is a financial expert and author. Ill stop over and leave a comment. Hi Jim, I saw your name on MMM and thought Id give you a shot. He strongly recommends Vanguard for several reasons. Oh, and I am hard at work on the book. My wife and I just turned 24 and are only starting this whole journey, so this post for your daughter has been extremely useful. In March 2016 I learned about indexing and decided to put $50k into VTSAX. Historically this runs between 8-12%. The obvious reason this works is that the more you save the more youll have. How I lost money in real estate before it was fashionable, Part II: The Limits of the Law. Keep us posted. Italy However, if you read thru this: https://jlcollinsnh.com/stock-series/ No one taught me, and at 46 years old, I am in really bad shape financially. I am 31, have a house payment with all the utilites, just paid off my car, no cc, no debt and do not want to dump all of my savings into an IRA fund that I wont be able to access. Each time youll be hearing Sell! Which was an excellent problem to have! If you want to use the posted savings chart you should calculate your savings rate as S/(E+S) where S is your current annual savings and E is your expected retirement / post financial independence annual expenses with predicted retirement / FI taxes included. great to see you over here, and welcome. In terms of a career, that translates to increasing your income. Even if you started with a lump sum of $381,600 ( $72k X 5.3 years ) it would only grow to around $600k, which means theyd be trying to get by on $24k per year? 1)Invest in 401k for match (Maybe, maybe not) Stocks -- Part IV: The Big Ugly Event, Deflation and a bit on Inflation. Many financial geeks, but certainly not all, tend to have trouble accepting this. "JL Collins is a masterful writer, storyteller, and financial educator. First, her annuity isnt going to double her money in 10 years, or in 110 years. Now Im interested in putting that money somewhere where it can start working for me verses just sitting in a very low interest savings account. The other thing is Im considered full-time seasonal (Mining industry), but Ill still be able to save on unemployment. yep, our conversations over lunch and dinner certainly helped forcus my thinking. How can I do step 8 in the most cost efficient, streamlined way? Sell! Alls good. Thats not the jlcollinsnh way! UN-earned income. . You gave me a lot to think about. Also glad you are reading the Mad Fientist. BTW, if you havent already read it you might find this of interest: Quick question in calculating savings rate do you use gross or net income as the denominator? Im also a big fan of the open-a-Roth-IRA-for-your-working-teens concept, or as Dan Kadlec calls it the Family 401(k). https://jlcollinsnh.com/2015/06/02/stocks-part-viii-the-401k-403b-tsp-ira-roth-buckets/, And before you get too hung up on dividends, read this: Upon changing my 401k contributions Ive come up with some ideas, and I would appreciate your opinion. Thats what you are missing. The answer depends on a few variables and questions. As a fella with a gal outta my league and a lovely daughter, I can relate to your lucky lot in life. Takes all guess work out, but Im just a little unsure on exactly how to live off the 4%. Chautauqua 2014 preview, closing up for travel and other random cool things that caught my eye of late. Greetings! As the market goes up and down (like it always does), you may be wondering how youll ever achieve FI with all this volatility. Thank you once again for your great blog. Fourth, that saving is your emergency fund. you dont want to be selling into a drop so you have to be sure you can leave it to work for you thru thick and thin. You are one of the most astute finacial guys I know. $100,000 annually before tax. Most people spend every cent they make and borrow to spend even more. If you are in the wealth preservation stage, you will be balancing your investments between your allocation. Ideally Id like to have ROTH and regular 401K and max them both out yearly if possible. COVID-19: The unvarnished truth from Doc G. Mr. Bear, Podcasts, a good book and why I should be in 100% stocks, A Guided Meditation for When the Stock Market Is Dropping, 7 Days in Heaven: or Why Slowing Down Will Get You There Sooner, Stocks -- Part XXXV: Investing for Seven Generations, Chautauqua 2019 - UK & Portugal - Tickets Now Available, Financial Independence Case Study: How to Reach FI in Your 30s, Car Talk: An update on Steve and looking at Leafs. Will see how it works. We funded part of it and used a portion of the financial birthday/holiday gifts she received from relatives to fund the rest. I do like having everything in the same place but I just wanted to see if you thought it would be worth going with Vanguard or not? This post is excellent! Time Machine and the future returns for stocks, Kibanda: Mr. Anti-house buys his dream house. Thanks in advance, I have really enjoyed reading your posts so far! I have a quick question about the best way to invest in VTSAX. Life Strategy funds can be a fine, if slightly more expensive, option and they take care of rebalancing for you: https://jlcollinsnh.com/2012/12/18/stocks-part-xv-target-retirement-funds-the-simplest-path-to-wealth-of-all/. Im currently listening to your Importance of F-you money podcast while browsing your blog, lol. Can you please cater your advice to financial geek to be like me? Love the blog, agree with everything. Will let you know how the experiment turns out if you are still blogging in 2025. She also taught me not to lie. I currently rent an apartment which is significantly less expensive then the property. Most particularly, I am trying to transfer this pursuit to my own children. If you havent already, please read the stock series on this blog for more. Dont bother. And God saying, Ah, man. Questions like yours fit best here: https://jlcollinsnh.com/ask-jlcollinsnh/. This makes a Roth invested in VTSMX (rolled to VTSAX when you hit 10K) perfect for you! 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