Let nature take it's course and watch all you're hard work shrivel up and die a slow death as all you're tomatoes ripen at once and rot off the vine. Is daconil safe to use? The mixing is easy. Pothos Root Rot Identification, Treatment, Prevention. Sorry, I can't help you with molecular structures & chains, etc. Most synthetic chemicals, especially the old ones (e.g. That would pertain, I think, primarily to many natural substances. endobj <> The search feature is at the bottom of this page/. ". endstream Threads on topics such as this tend to get divisive and often turn nasty b'c there are so many differeng opinions that can be found online. A Pesticide Information Project of Cooperative Extension Call a poison control center or doctor for treatment advice. It can also cure rust of tomato, tomato scab, early and late tomato blight as well as black tomato spots. Pretty please lets' not assume b'c I have a Ph.D in Human Infectious Diseases and taught med students most of my life that I know more than others about anything ( other than perhaps about infectious diseases). Science regulatory organizations that measure risk, which takes into account exposure, have consistently and universally found that glyphosate poses no identifiable health danger to workers or consumers if used as recommended. 2 |\jX~p!h"3[QE>/`q9K}<1V4xyUw2` /Contents 6 0 R>> If in eyes: Hold eye open and rinse slowly and gently with water for 15-20 minutes. hb```"}j @1f@cNniYjx!445@SeIz@d fb6H7r|9@ n Mostly tomato growers. Organic v conventional using GMOs: Which is the more sustainable farming? "Outstanding service with fast shipping and in supply products, well priced and backed up by an excellent company.". endobj In today's litigious society I would be careful about what I am recommending. Apart from tomatoes, you can use it for other plants like Potatoes, cucumbers, melons, grapes, apples, onions, and roses. It is not systemic; therefore it must be reapplied regularly during the growing season. stream `RYu*%4f!M{Tf"P@aDrK0?..K!Y> C m Theory and tests aside, are there known case studies of persons with cancer that are linked to chlorothalonil? The information in this profile may be out-of-date. Hoosier, I respect your position and I, myself, try to avoid most synthetic chemicals until some other means fails. Hey- I got the answer to all your problems. Guides. Yes, tomatoes are safe after applied with Garden Tech Daconil Fungicide Concentrate. endobj Carolyn is right on when she say's this is a controversial topic. x3R235W(*T0PR0T(Y@@QC= P AJ 14VpW University of Idaho, and the University of California at Davis HWMs8Jo(c;W&GSs"! iN7@RTbOeOke$u{ ?aA" H2(X_z|?n/DiYC3e6 ZAII'?g9f5G_OHM238j{G=/Kz5l#%gymx:u/ @Idt$b YVcxSLmm1zt`#X%>G&=AdR dv%-!=y,05 )Q;FO3[x //g2TP This is actually a pretty thought-provoking thread. 4 0 obj But with a fungal infection are a different ball game. Call a poison control center or doctor for further treatment advice. <> For example it is toxic to honeybees when used as a fungicide and astudy showed extreme toxicity to bees in tropical environments (it was carried outin Brazil), where copper sulfate is used as a sprayed fertilizer (to provide heavy metal nutrients). Trade and Other Names: When comparing such a source to objective testing presented by extoxnet, extoxnet inevitably wins the credibility battle. I guess I made the leap from 'cancers' to 'deaths' as most of the people I knew who had cancer did in fact die and relatively quickly. * If product comes into contact with skin, irritation may occur. <> x3R235W(*T0PR0T(Y@@QC= P AJ 14SpW o Subscribe to our newsletter. Now as you say the conditions of the study are not stated. Drinking cow's urine in small quantities might not possess any harm but in excess can cause diarrhea, nausea, disruption of electrolytes, and vomiting.'. You have actually convinced me that it is one of the least toxic of the Home Depot green bottle pesticides. <> The best way to use this fungicide is to use it in a tank spray. <> From that EXTOXNET site I see words like WARNING and DANGER and I like fish, my eyes and my skin. Daconil Fungicide Concentrate. SENSITIZATION:Guinea pig - no evidence of allergic skin reactions. 27 0 obj Many products can be toxic if accidently splashed into the eyes, inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through the skin. 1 0 obj Its also used in non-agricultural applications, such as killing algae in swimming pools and even keeping algal populations down in natural lakes. Copper sulfate is effective at killing fungi, algae and even snails in this way. endobj Wash thoroughly with soap and water. Yes No 284 of 304 people found this answer helpful. endstream endobj Yes No 284 of 304 people found this answer helpful. human health is unclear, although metabolism data suggest that the dog, a species that is resistant to chlorothalonil-induced renal injury, may be more representative of humans than the rat. NPIC is open five days m~$0 Although I know it is of the utmost concern, I couldn't find anything regarding how Daconil affects the flavor of tomatoes. " Excerpt from Vioxx withdrawal info"In addition, these regulatory agencies concluded that, although long-term placebo-controlled data are not available for non-selective NSAIDS, the current data suggests that COX 2 selective NSAIDs and non-selective NSAIDs have similar cardiovascular risk profiles." If you suffer ever year from early blight and other foliar diseases and wish to save your harvest or prolong your harvest, then try it if you'd like. of the fungicide with one gallon of water and mix it to make a liquid spray. Which is more important? But I'll pass on both thank u. endobj Immunox: The active ingredient is myclobutanil, which is effective against most fungi by not Pythium or Phytophthora. Carolyn, whose professional career is over and done with as of 1999. blush, lol I don't think I ever completely revealed here at the forums how high the pedestal I was standing concerning personal beliefs about organic gardening. In addition, surveillance of chlorothalonil plant workers for over twenty years has not demonstrated any increase in oncogenic potential to humans. Proper research and timely application will save your tomato plant from any irreversible damage. /Contents 30 0 R>> But I am a bit concerned about some of the chemicals the FDA says are safe. Garden Tech Daconil Fungicide Concentratecan be applied up to every 14 days, depending on what you are treating for. 21 0 obj There is no waiting period. I'm not selling daconil, but I am sold on it. It is similar, albeit on the opposite side of the debate, to relying only upon, say, Dow Chemical's testing to make your point. "There is a growing body of research that has reported a wide range of adverse effects of inactive ingredients to human health, including enhancing pesticide toxicities across the nervous,. SERENADE--HAZARDS TO HUMANS & DOMESTIC ANIMALS. ORAL LD50:This product is practically nontoxic if ingested. I hadn't mulched yet when I got a hard rain and hail and some disease started. 32 0 obj With the testing available thus far, I will not hesitate to use Daconil sparingly, after a problem has arisen (and quite honestly, this is rare for me, and only on ornamentals; I don't have a lot of vegetable plantings at this time). have seen reps from a company that sells chlorothanlonil based fungicides quickly leave the field when their product is being applied. And to tell the truth I haven't even needed to use Daconil for the past three years.". This is a great fungicide that is very good for tomato leaf spots. 78 of 105 people found this answer helpful. Also, it was not found to contribute to egg shell thinning, as was originally suspected. Well I have a few thoughtsnot sure if any are usefulbut that has never stopped me from opening my big mouth! Daconil lost its turf label still good on shrubs. How does this compare to organic-type fungicides?The MSDS for Serenade (an OMRI-approved organic fungal control) contains these facts:* May be irritating to skin for some individuals. /Contents 22 0 R>> Triact. Thanks for any light you can shed on the matter. A version of this article appeared on the GLP on November 16, 2018 and has been update to include more background information on the health hazards posed by copper sulfate. surfaces. Additionally, watering daily with s, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. Avoid applications when bees are foraging. Ya know above they mention Vioxx being withdrawn because in the PM it ruled and next AM it was dangerous, but how many of you still take Ibuprofen because Advil (and all) hasn't volunteered to withdraw it? Hope all you unlicensed guy read this post. Tomato late blight is caused by Phytophthora infestans. Not many chemists here. Copyright 2018 - 2022 by Missouri Botanical Garden. /Contents 26 0 R>> It seems to me that the question you pose is just as valid when comparing chlorothalinol to ANY similarly composed substance. 31 0 obj f found in formulations with many other pesticide compounds. This fungicide gives broad spectrum control of vegetable, flower, fruit and ornamental diseases including but not limited to anthracnose, leaf blights, downy mildew, powdery mildew, leaf curl, scab, black spot fusarium leaf spot and many other diseases. Since daconil lacks thorough testing, is considered a toxin by label standards, can trigger immune responses in humans, effects the . I was just providing some information for others to consider. What Does a Snapdragon Look Like? A number of studies show that it is highly toxic to humans, animals, beneficial insects and the environment. <> Ultimately the management of water resources lies with the governments, who retain a sovereign duty to ensure the human right to safe drinking water. Daconil. Mutagenic effects:Mutagenicity studies on various animals, bacteria, and plants indicate that chlorothalonil does not cause any genetic changes [17,35,36]. Some of the products below may be dangerous in their concentrated form to humans, domestic animals, and/or aquatic organisms such as fish. Either way it seems some folks are getting upset so I'm finished here. Gary, I haven't forgotten that I said I'd look at that EXTONET site, but I just haven't gotten to it yet. The label suggests spraying when the leaves are beginning to unfold and repeating every 7 to 10 days until two weeks after petal-fall. Apply the amount of concentrate in the table So again, I'm not trying to sell anyone anything. Bill, I'm not selling anything either. 2 - Just because something isn't safe and it is withdrawn from the market (Voluntarily) doesn't mean that the alternatives are any better. endobj Sevin) are extremely well-tested. It is classified as fosetyl aluminum. Daconil 2787, Echo, Exotherm Termil, Forturf, Mold-Ex, Nopcocide Among the materials in this high-risk category are diazinon, Imidan, malathion and Sevin. Avoid breathing spray mist. Daconil is a broad-spectrum fungicide to control leaf spots, rust, blights, fruit rots . I guess I could have skipped most of that and just said "Whenever you listen to someone's opinion, listen for what they don't tell you. This is safe for use on edibles, as well as various other areas as well. No,Daconil Fungicide Concentrateis notlabeledto be used any citrus, including meyer lemon. Apart from curing septoria leaf spot, it also helps in controlling fungal infections like early and late tomato blight, black mold, grey lead mold, grey lead spot, and rust of tomato, Algae, powdery mildew, and botrytis. I suggest you choose the fungicide based on the soil and the level of moisture in the soil. Wish I could consiously use the stuff as my plants are taking a beating from fungus this year. HWv8>!AR$8xI$h~Rd%/"n.}Yf(es6+.|%`/}|lU]XvqUa4ynw0}b3M# How to Distinguish Between Viable and Non-Viable Tomato Seeds for Successful Planting. In agriculture, fungicides are used to protect tubers, fruits and vegetables during storage or are applied directly to ornamental plants, trees, field crops, cereals and turf grasses (Gupta & Aggarwal, 2007). Finally, since DDT was mentioned, it is interesting that DDT was found to contribute, I recall, to only something like one single human death worldwide (a very unusual circumstance contributed to this). Chlorothalonil containing products have a range INHALATION LC50:This product if inhaled is practically nontoxic. The instructions on how to apply it are on the label, so you can use it accordingly. This fungicide is good for early tomato blight but you can use it for other plants as well. Fungal infections are not just of a single type, there are many different types of infections unfortunately and they have different effects on the tomato plant. these products has a different formulation and product And I'm not going to take the time to do that. We've hashed through this issue here in this same forum many times in the past two years. WINNERS ANNOUNCED of the LAST Drawing for FREE Plants! Is there any documented info or links on 0.077% chlorothalonil like we commonly use on tomatoes? 9 0 obj 22 0 obj And, like many other pesticides, some fungi and algae have developed a resistance to it, a characteristic thats been known for nearly 60 years. Chlorothalonil is a broad-spectrum organochlorine fungicide used endstream GardenTech Daconil)This is another good, general-purpose fungicide for many fungal . Well at one time it was supposed to be safe to spray DDT in affluent US Neighborhoods. Chipco 26GT. It's only a category II for eye irritation. If your tomato plants have been attacked by pests, there are lots of ways to save them. The dangers you list, and you say it's still daconil/chlorothalonil whatever %, are actually reduced 384 times by the time it comes out of the sprayer for the 29.6% version. 202 of 207 people found this answer helpful. x3R235W(*T0PR0T(Y@@QC= P AJ 1SpW stream 2lu8w{y_x/i_:y[Lszn^[:H2Af[{c#37 fa2kK%>?~|E4^]7F65B"[jFfya@_"gA2>+vf505gn>!tN1u I.A*($wB_q3I9lHm%Y,a/=-hTA5C~(9Shzrk t=GWrg. Here are the chemicals that make up who we are. It makes life very easy =) With regards to using it as an anti fungicide, I cant make any statement to that because I just use it to clean trees. (that's 77 THOUSANDTHS of ONE percent! S:t ^-;pGWgw-li!7#(:gS. Spray every ten days during rainy spring weather, or every two weeks during dry spring weather. If you have a lot of seeds to spare in one variety batch, test germination on paper towels to get an idea of what percentage of smalls might germinate in the future. Product Identifier: DACONIL . Basic granular fertilizers are relatively safe for humans to use and handle. Why there is that differential between NRC ( national Research council) and the FDA I don't know b'c I don't know what the actural experiemtns were. I live in Charleston SC one of the most humid places in North America (my opinion only, not fact). They are used for controlling fungal infections, damaged plants, and especially rust, This is a great fungicide that is very good for. it is one thing to do a off label applications. CAUTIONHarmful if inhaled. EXTOXNET no longer updates this information, but it may be useful Rinse, spray, scrub, etc.. Other safer synthetic compounds are being developed. 19 0 obj 12 0 obj endstream It is registered for use against apple scab so you can apply it to your apple trees if you've had problems with scab or leaf spots in the past. 4344 Shaw Blvd, 7 0 obj For example, the Soil Association in the UK has published poll results that showed 95 percent of consumers said they buy organic food because they believe they are avoiding all pesticides. <> Vioxx is ok to take and widely prescribed by thousands of doctors on Monday but not after 12:01AM Tuesday since they are now banned for killing people. <> Please contactGardenTechat 866-945-5033 to help you with your specific applications. endobj endobj updated pesticide fact sheets. 47 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<5A719DD98C9F9A335E8846CBAB40D43B><4465D21CE3B9E745AF5A2511447674B8>]/Index[40 15]/Info 39 0 R/Length 56/Prev 31466/Root 41 0 R/Size 55/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream <> * There are 768 teaspoons in a gallon.DaconilRatiochlorathalonil (%)undiluted~3:129.6%1 tsp768:1.039%2 tsp384:1.077%3 tsp (1 tbsp)256:1.116%, I think for tomatoes the recommended application rate is 2 teaspoons. 0.077%. 11 0 obj and from the Serenade label:If inhaled: Move person to fresh air. My organic garden is light years better than it was back in my chem days. Maybe I should have put a question mark behind this sentance. Chlorothalanil is less toxic to humans than is caffeine--it is safe to use. In my first post here I offered to interpret any tests re Daconil that anyone might come up with, if I know about them, b'c LD 50 and other such tests are pretty standard in Biology and used for human drugs as well. x3R235W(*T0PR0T(Y@@QC= P AJ 1UpW /Contents 20 0 R>> I have never seen one like this before. <> That I have come to the conclusion that Daconil is an OK thing for me, is one thing,and that was done after much research online plus the positive impact it made on my tomato growing. This infection attacks the fruit directly. neem oil. <> D rFp>^r.g? The . If you remember to use it regularly, it protects against Septoria and the other fungus diseases of tomatoes - good stuff! 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